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scripsi ([personal profile] scripsi) wrote2015-02-10 09:46 pm

50 Shades of Grey, oh let me count the ways why I dislike you

I have read 50 Shades of Grey, I felt like you kind of had to. I had hoped that I would find that it was much better than people have said, but sadly I found that I disliked the book intensely and for several reasons.


1. The language

This book started out as a Twilight fanfiction and, yes, you can tell. Well, I can’t really tell that it is just Twilight fanfic, because I have never read those book, but they way it is written reminds me of many, many mediocre fanfictions I have read over the years. It just isn’t well written. What annoyed me the most was a the repetitions and Ana’s bad language. I’m not a prude, I can take a swear word or two, but I sometimes felt that Ana only knew one word and that was “crap”. Which I frankly don’t care to read over and over. I know a lot of people use swear words in daily life, but a written book isn’t the same thing and I quickly grew tired of her potty mouth. I like my books well.written, thank you very much. And my fanfics too, actually.

2.The characters


It’s not easy to like a book when you dislike both the hero and the heroine. Mr. Grey is abusive, manipulative and controlling, not to mention those uncharming stalker tendencies he displays. Scary! But I didn’t like Ana either. She bitched and moaned throughout the book and though she is described as an independent woman, her actual behaviour was more doormat. I also thought she was quite nasty toward her friends who cared about her, which she just found annoying. I also heartily dislike the troupe of standard pretty girl who think she is ugly. I know all about low self-esteem, but Ana behaves more like a fourteen year old than a grown woman.

3. The BDSM

This is what I hated the most. I do BDSM myself. I’m a submissive, my husband is dominant. We basically keep it in the bedroom, but it do spill over in our daily life. And if there is one thing that is important, then it is mutual consent. We have talked a lot of what we like and what we want, and also of what we don’t want. We still talk about it and we have been together for seven years. I trust him and he trusts me, because even dominants have boundaries that they don’t want crossed. We love and care about each other. However, abuse happens that may be called BDSM, though it isn’t. A woman I know slightly recently told a story of how she, for several hours were bound, beaten bloody, had electrical shocks in both her vagina and anus as well as raped. She had a safe word, but the man had spent a lot of time telling her that if she used is that would prove that she wasn’t a real and good submissive so she hesitated. And then she went into shock and her mind went literally blank, she could not remember the safe word. For several hours she cried and begged and the man didn not, never once, take a pause to double check and make sure that she was ok. I find that a very scary story. And even scarier that he never and not until this day (it happened five years ago) realised that he did something wrong. He prides himself with being a good dominant. What he did was abuse, not BDSM. What Mr. Grey does to Ana, that is also abuse, not BDSM.

Well, 50 Shades is a fantasy, so is that consent thing so important then? I say yes and with that I know I’m on a rocky road. The majority of my fics contain very similar themes as 50 Shades so am I not throwing stones in a glass house? Perhaps, but I will try to explain what I dislike about the book so; it is described as a modern relationship in a modern world. The fantasy element can be very hard to make out because the setting is familiar to us. If I write, or read, a story where a pirate king has his way with a fair maiden or an alien Time Lord subjugate one of the Doctors companions, well, you just can’t mistake that for reality. But it is much too easy to think that 50 Shades is for real and that’s scary. Because yes, people often do believe what they read and think it’s ok to do IRL. Also, abuse takes its toll and I heartily dislike a story, fanfic or otherwise, were rape and abuse are just treated like something sexy. Yes, I do write about and yes, it is part of my fantasy life, but I will never ever write a story where it is not treated as something damaging.

Which brings me to another point, that 50 Shades treats BDSM as something you yearn for if you have been abused, something only damaged people do. Mr Grey have been abused and as a result he is dominant. I have never met a person who do BDSM who has been drawn to it because of how they have been treated. I know, of course, as I am one of them, that you can be drawn to BDSM even if you have been mis-treated, but everyone I know, me included, have had the attraction to BDSM long before. I don’t know why I’m inclined to it, but it has always been part of my sexual makeup, my very first sexual fantasy evolved around it at that at a time when I didn’t know what BDSM was. But I had a happy and secure childhood and I’m completely sure that it isn’t anything that happened to me that made me who I am. Same for my husband or our friends in the BDSM world. They had perfectly normal childhoods and they are nice, well-balanced people as adult. They just happen to have a certain sexual preferences.

And last, I find the BDSM scenes really rather boring and sometimes something I hope no one will try blindly. I am almost completely sure that the author has never been into BDSM herself but has only used it as sexy spice. For example, there is, admittedly a dream scene, where Ana dreams that Mr. Grey whips her with a riding crop between her legs. I just hope no one just tries that. Speaking as a woman who actually enjoy being whipped by one I can also tell you that I would never, ever want it anywhere else than on my buttocks. A riding crop can do some real damage and it isn’t even difficult to do that.

I know that a lot of people love this book and I guess it is fine as long as you are well aware that they are a fantasy and not something that should be emulated in real life. And that you understand that if you would like to try BDSM, then this book is NOT a good template. Go find your knowledge somewhere else, please.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2015-02-15 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read the book(s), but those are the main points I kept hearing, as well. It's really unpleasant that the BDSM community gets such messed-up representation that can't even be called representation, just selling clichés and giving the wrong image entirely, never mind using BDSM to cover up abuse. Ugh.

I have a fascination for dark stories and abuse stories as well, but abuse and darkness that call themselves what they are, instead of getting romanticized.

Ana dreams that Mr. Grey whips her with a riding crop between her legs.
Goodness, I have no experience whatsoever with a riding crop, but isn't the most minimal knowledge of the female body the necessary thing to know this is nonsense?!

I know that a lot of people love this book and I guess it is fine as long as you are well aware that they are a fantasy and not something that should be emulated in real life.
Exactly. This isn't and won't be the first book that isn't very good or very insightful, it just gets scary when you imagine it might get some influence over people. Mind you, that was a thing I always found a bit weird to think about when it came to Twilight criticism—it was just beyond me how any sensible human being would use a fantasy book as a template for relationships, or be deeply influenced by its underlying messages. Are we really so easily swayed?

The bad language would really bother me, too; a bit of it in dialogue and in the right context is fine, but all over the place, seriously?

She bitched and moaned throughout the book and though she is described as an independent woman, her actual behaviour was more doormat. I also thought she was quite nasty toward her friends who cared about her, which she just found annoying.
To be fair, this is where you get the "Twilight fanfic" vibe. All of those traits you could also accuse Bella Swan of. ;)

[identity profile] scripsi.livejournal.com 2015-02-16 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
A part in my dislike for the books are also the authors attitude. I find her flippant and downright nasty, basically saying that if you are triggered by her books, then there is something wrong with you.

I have a fascination for dark stories and abuse stories as well, but abuse and darkness that call themselves what they are, instead of getting romanticized

Yes, exactly. And reading, or writing it gives you control over it, which I think is a very important aspect of it.

Exactly. This isn't and won't be the first book that isn't very good or very insightful, it just gets scary when you imagine it might get some influence over people. Mind you, that was a thing I always found a bit weird to think about when it came to Twilight criticism—it was just beyond me how any sensible human being would use a fantasy book as a template for relationships, or be deeply influenced by its underlying messages. Are we really so easily swayed?

I think people are not easily swayed when it is clear that it is just a fantasy. I know someone who get turned on by thinking she is laying in a heap of tigers who licks her all over. It's very easy to understand that this is a fantasy that has no place in real life. In my mind a fantasy novel is the same- everyone knows there are no real vampires. So I don't get that kind of criticism either. I read a lot of historic romances in my teens, and they weer pretty much the same (and with a lot not-so disguised BDSM), but you just know a romantic hero from several hundreds of you will come and sweep you of your feets. But what happens in 50 Shades is something that very much looks like real life. True, most men aren't millionaires, but Mr. Grey is a common male ideal; rich, young and handsome. Even if he has a lifestyle few of us will ever have, it still is something that can happen. So if you donät know anything about BDSM, then it is very easy to not get the fantasy element in 50 Shades but instead think that it is a relationship model that works.

It is rather scare how many beginners of BDSM that shows up on net communities nowadays who says straight out the 50 Shades are their ideal and that the abusive relationship in it is a "real" BDSM model. The potential for real harm is much to large, IMO.


To be fair, this is where you get the "Twilight fanfic" vibe. All of those traits you could also accuse Bella Swan of. ;)


Well, I haven't read Twilight, but if Bella is like that, then I am sure I haven't midded anything. :D

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2015-02-21 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I get that. I know nothing about the author or her attitude, but this sounds pretty bad.

And reading, or writing it gives you control over it, which I think is a very important aspect of it.
Very true!

I think people are not easily swayed when it is clear that it is just a fantasy. I know someone who get turned on by thinking she is laying in a heap of tigers who licks her all over. It's very easy to understand that this is a fantasy that has no place in real life. In my mind a fantasy novel is the same- everyone knows there are no real vampires. So I don't get that kind of criticism either. I read a lot of historic romances in my teens, and they weer pretty much the same (and with a lot not-so disguised BDSM), but you just know a romantic hero from several hundreds of you will come and sweep you of your feets. But what happens in 50 Shades is something that very much looks like real life. True, most men aren't millionaires, but Mr. Grey is a common male ideal; rich, young and handsome. Even if he has a lifestyle few of us will ever have, it still is something that can happen. So if you donät know anything about BDSM, then it is very easy to not get the fantasy element in 50 Shades but instead think that it is a relationship model that works.

I get what you mean. Indeed it’s easier to be influenced by that kind of story than another…

It is rather scary how many beginners of BDSM that shows up on net communities nowadays who says straight out the 50 Shades are their ideal and that the abusive relationship in it is a "real" BDSM model. The potential for real harm is much too large, IMO.

Wow. That is quite frightening. :/

Well, I haven't read Twilight, but if Bella is like that, then I am sure I haven't missed anything. :D
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