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scripsi ([personal profile] scripsi) wrote2025-05-15 05:01 pm

The fairy tales

I loved fairy tales as a small child, and I continued to read and love them long after my friend outgrew them. My parents had a book on Vietnamese tales, and one with Swedish ones, and later I found Andrew Lang’s Fairy books with tales collected all over the world. I was fascinated that tales like the Cinderella story had many different versions. In the Swedish one, for example, Cinderella went to three balls, dressed first in silver, then gold, then in a bejewelled gown, and though she dropped the shoes, it wasn’t made of glass. She also only had one stepsister, and the story didn’t end with the wedding. No, the stepsister pushed Cinderella into the sea, where she was going to be forced to marry a sea monster, while the stepsister made herself look like Cinderella. Luckily the prince noticed, and managed to save his bride, though not before she was turned into a serpent that he had to dip into three baths, winter, milk and water, to save.

When I was around 10, my mother took a university course on children’s books, and read Bruno Bettelheim’s The Uses of Enchantment, which I picked up and which had a profound impact on my ability to comprehend and analyze my reading. I’se been a long time since I read it, so I’m quoting Wikipedia on it.

Bettelheim analyzed fairy tales in terms of Freudian psychology in “The Uses of Enchantment” (1976). He discussed the emotional and symbolic importance of fairy tales for children, including traditional tales once considered too dark, such as those collected and published by the Brothers Grimm. Bettelheim suggested that traditional fairy tales, with the darkness of abandonment, death, witches, and injuries, allowed children to grapple with their fears in remote, symbolic terms. If they could read and interpret these fairy tales in their own way, he believed, they would get a greater sense of meaning and purpose.

I’ve also realized I missed a book in my list on books which impacted me, namely One Thousand and One Nights. My father’s parents has a lovely edition in a set of 6 books, which I used to read every time I visited. I was very happy when they gifted the set to me when I turned 16. It’s a 1920s edition with gorgeous illustration by Gudmund Hentze. Also abridged- too racy sequences are edited out, though the book helpful points out that even if the edited text is “very amusing,it doesn’t conform to our time’s view on morality”. It’s also not all of the stories, though I’m unsure how many there should be.





Anyway, with loving fairy tales so much, it’s probably not surprising that I also love retellings. The first I remember reading was Robin Mckinley Beauty which I read long before the Disney movie. The Beauty and the Beast was always a favourite. I’ve read several of Mckinleyäs retellings and really liked them all. Even though Deerskin is a very hard read.

Bitter Greens by Kate Forsyth are both a retelling of Rapunzel and a fictionalizing of the life of 17th century author Charlotte-Rose de Caumont de La Force, who wrote the first version of the tale. Forsyth have written several retellings, though I have only read The Wild Girl, which has the same concept as Bitter Greens. It’s both a retelling of All-Kinds-of-Fur as well as about the life of Dortchen Wild, who was one of the fairy-tale sources for the Grimm brothers, and married one of them. I think both books are excellent, though The Wild Girl is as disturbing as Deerskin for the same reasons.

Growing Rich by Fay Weldon is a modern retelling of Faust. Bernard Bellamy has made a deal with the Devil, but what happens when the object of his object of desire, Carmen, says no? The Devil has his work cut out for him, and the book follows Carmen and her best friends Laura and Annie as he threatens and cajoles them to push Carmen to accept her fate. Or perhaps it’s just the usual mix of good and bad that life throws at you, and the Devil is nothing more than Bernard Bellamy’s handsome chauffeur.

It was also made into a mini-series from 1992 which I remember enjoying. You can find it on Youtube, but the quality is so bad I haven’t had the energy to re-watch it.
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[personal profile] liadt 2025-05-15 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Swedish Cinderella went through a lot! Two stories in one.

Nice illustrations, although I wouldn't want to meet that monster!
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[personal profile] angrboda 2025-05-15 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Our local library have regular book swap days. You just bring books you don't want to keep and look if there's something else you would like instead. You don't have to give any to take any. Last time there was a full set of 1001 nights. A full set of 16 books. I think they might even have been illustrated.

I didn't take them. WHY did I not take them?!??? Regretted it as soon as we were back in the car on the way to our next errand that day.

If they are still there at the next book swap, it's a sign! (I fear my odds aren't very good, though)
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[personal profile] flo_nelja 2025-05-15 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yesss, I love fairy tales and retellings too! I wasn't deep into it when I was very little, it started in middle school. Andersen's tales and Vercors' Contes des cataplasmes were my faves at the time.
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[personal profile] kaffy_r 2025-05-15 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The Cinderella retellings are fascinating. I knew the Grimm's version, with the cutting off of toes and heels, but the idea that poor Cinderella had to be rescued twice, each rescue requiring three separate things, is so very very fairy tale - the power of three indeed.

(Was it Cinderella or Snow White's story that had the wicked stepmother nailed into red hot shoes as punishment for being a wicked stepmother? I can't recall. Bad people being punished that awfully speaks to a certain amount of rage against evil people in power within the hearts of the people who told the stories. Or maybe that's too much political analysis?)
Edited 2025-05-15 20:56 (UTC)
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2025-05-15 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I find the whole beauty equals goodness element in fairy tales disturbing. Little kids tend to take that stuff very literally.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2025-05-22 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of people still think that way.
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[personal profile] qwentoozla 2025-05-17 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I always loved fairy tales as a kid too, I was always getting fairy tale books out at the library, including the Andrew Lang ones and an abridged One Thousand and One Nights too. And I also remember reading Mckinley's Beauty and Deerskin. Sunshine will always be my favorite book of hers though!